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Arctic
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@itsOasus We like to pretend the free market will somehow take care of this but the truth is it just won't. We fear that "small businesses" will be hurt by this but refuse to question whether a business should exist if it can't take care of its own employees.

Eugene
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@arctic @itsOasus I feel this perspective is a false consensus bias perpetrated on us. Even republicans I know say healthcare shouldn’t bankrupt a person. Then they say Democrats are keeping back reform that will fix the problem. Ouch.

/home/aetios :catvibe:
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@itsOasus living in NL, no idea what benefits really comprise
Eugene
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@aetios @itsOasus instead of being bankrupt by the birth of your child, you spend half your life savings. The other half pays for their education because for five decades public schools were starved of resources.

grepe
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@itsOasus wait till you hear about up to 3 years of protected parental leave (up to 28 months at least partially paid) and (depending on where you leave) free day care. oh, and they can't just fire you.

Locksmith
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@itsOasus As in, "what do you mean, 'benefits'? These are your minimum rights."

Locksmith
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@lobingera @itsOasus I went through this once. Since then I refuse to state my expectation before hearing them first.

Atomic Fox
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@Johannes_Silverfox @itsOasus

It's not feudalism because there's not even a pretence of reciprocity, of downward loyalty. It's patricians and plebeians.

Johannes Silverfox 🦊
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@tsukkitsune @itsOasus True..though Trump’s cultists seem to think it’s reciprocal and he’ll give them prosperity and wealth in exchange for returning him to power by any means necessary.

In this case, what they don’t know will hurt them.

Atomic Fox
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@Johannes_Silverfox @itsOasus

Everyone has had a chance to see how that man operates, and if they think he has any inclination to reward or protect his supporters, they're deluding themselves. With him, it all flows one way.

Schafstelze
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@itsOasus and if you organize in your labour union, you might even get MORE benefits than just the bare legal minimum

Jo ♀️🐈🐈‍⬛🛍️👛💅
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@itsOasus Yes, feels great to be treated like a Human being huh? I have relatives in Germany that get all of this...and even the Walmarts over there are union & get same benefits.
We could do that here, if our government gave a rats ass about our healthcare system but...they don't.
#healthcareisahumanright except in the USA

Jørn
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@itsOasus @EeveeEuphoria You have to buy health insurance in Germany?

In Norway everybody is insured by the government. Some companies have private health insurance as a perk, but it’s only to get an appointment faster (and hence your ass back on your chair faster)

Jordi Margalef
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@jornane @itsOasus @EeveeEuphoria yes and/but no. Like in the majority of 🇪🇺 countries, 🇩🇪 can get fully public or private health care through work. If it works as I understand it, if you have public health care, you pay more tax than if you have private health care, but need to pay the insurance from your earnings. Also, may have fewer treatments or limited cover available. And the possibility of pay now get a refund later - with all sorts of questions in between, in the private.

Chris Vest
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@jornane @itsOasus @EeveeEuphoria it’s mostly a technicality in Germany. Just choose a provider and tell payroll (if you have any) your account details. Then use the healthcare services in a similar way to how you do in Norway.

Piggo :verified_horse:
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@itsOasus does Germany have 30 days of vacation as a standard? huh
lainy
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halcy​:icosahedron:
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@piggo @itsOasus the legal minimum is four work weeks, so if you work 5 days a week, 20 days, though 30 is common in many collective bargaining agreements (and beyond that even in many non union jobs)

lainy
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@itsOasus this is not how healthcare works in Germany, or vacation. Sick leave is indeed unlimited, but it's paid by the health insurance and not by the employer.
Jordi Margalef
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@lain @itsOasus if it's long enough, it will be eventually paid by the State. But not as sick leave but any other social benefit applicable.

kittyclimpo
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@lain @itsOasus that’s after you’ve had your six weeks of sick leave on 100% pay, paid by your employer. I think it’s forgivable of op to simplify the conversation slightly to fit in a toot

Giliell
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@itsOasus My kid just said today : "The USA are so fucked up, they think that Germany is good."

⛧⛧⛧J.d.B.⛧⛧⛧
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@itsOasus I work for a US company but in Germany. Yep, infinite sick leave, month of vacation and of course all insurances paid. I need a doctor, I see no money moving. Just show your card and it is all handled behind the scenes.

Especially nice with Type 1 diabetes. All pumps, sensors, insulins, all equipment paid without me seeing any money changing hands.

Bas Schouten
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@itsOasus Except your employer is not at all required to pay for your complete health insurance in Germany. They only pay half. And you only get 20 days off. Not 30, so while this piece sounds nice. It's entirely fictional.

mbo77
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@Schouten_B @itsOasus
20 is the minimum required by law.
But most employees have contracts with 30 days.

Bas Schouten
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@mbo77 @itsOasus Sure! So do I. But that's a -benefit- for good jobs. Not something everyone gets. The poster suggested that's what current regulations enforce, and it simply isn't.

Lurs
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@Schouten_B @itsOasus still sounds amazing 🤷🏻‍♀️

dibi58
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@itsOasus

surprised ? that's what kkkristians nations are about ...

Bobby
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@itsOasus What US-americans call "benefits" are just "simple bare necessities" over here...

Owen Mehegan
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@itsOasus
Yeah try asking when "open enrollment" is.
@robey

Niek stadhouders
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@itsOasus benefits everybody

Alexandre Cunha
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@itsOasus just one correction, the employer pays half of the health insurance

Njord
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@itsOasus And, of course, it's also true that, even uninsured, you generally pay less for medication and medical appointments outside the US, than you pay after insurance in the US

Jan Eden
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@itsOasus Health insurance works differently in Germany, though. Your employer covers roughly 50% of the costs (or 70% and more for public servants), and there are major differences between public ("gesetzlich") and private healthcare insurance.