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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@fennix" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>fennix</span></a></span> TBH, I think those bs claims should be illegal.</p><p>The only valid claims I've seen is that it enables people to circumvent <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/geoblocking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>geoblocking</span></a> and potentially <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InternetCensorship" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>InternetCensorship</span></a> as well as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TrafficDiscrimination" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TrafficDiscrimination</span></a> due to lack of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetNeutrality" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NetNeutrality</span></a>, but those are always to be taken with a truckload of salt!</p><p>Most certsinly, there are no <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/loglessVPN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>loglessVPN</span></a>|s"</em> and no <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VPN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VPN</span></a> provider will <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210606070919/twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1085614812581715968" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">risk jailtime for any.client</a>…</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://det.social/@lostgen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>lostgen</span></a></span> ich würde zu <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TorBrowser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TorBrowser</span></a> raten.</p><ul><li>Ist auf <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Privatsph%C3%A4re" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Privatsphäre</span></a> getrimmt.</li><li>Nachweislich guter Track Record.</li><li>Keine <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Werbung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Werbung</span></a> für <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VPN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VPN</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Bullshit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bullshit</span></a> ¹ welcher nachweislich nur nen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Scam</span></a> sein kann, denn <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LoglessVPN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LoglessVPN</span></a>|s sind ne <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/L%C3%BCge" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Lüge</span></a>².</li><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> ist nachweislich besser als jedes kommerzielle VPN! </li></ul><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVDQEoe6ZWY" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">1</a><br><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220112020000/https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1085614812581715968" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2</a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@erebion" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>erebion</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@inaruck" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>inaruck</span></a></span> es gibt <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJoO2uWrX1M" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">soviele Gründe</a> weshalb Mensch nicht <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> vertrauen sollte.</p><p>Aber um es nochnal klar zu erklären:</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> verlangt <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telefonnummer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Telefonnummer</span></a> = <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> (Persönlich identifizierbare Informationen). [Und nein, sich irgendwo zwielichtig ne Nummer als Ausrede greift nicht!]</p></li><li><p>Signal ist zentralisiert &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> sowie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a>!</p></li><li><p>Signal fällt wegen Sitz in den <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USA</span></a> unter <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> = inhärent mit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DSGVO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DSGVO</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BDSG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BDSG</span></a> inkompatibel!</p></li><li><p>Signal erlaubt keine <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> aller Keys und ist deshalb für Einige Angriffsmethoden offen!</p></li></ul><p>Nur echte <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Dezentralisierung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Dezentralisierung</span></a> wie bei <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> kann <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Datenschutz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Datenschutz</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Informationssicherheit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Informationssicherheit</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Vertraulichkeit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Vertraulichkeit</span></a> sicherstellen.</p><ul><li>Anders als Signal kann <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> nicht gegen Nutzer basierend auf Herkunft (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Rufnummer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Rufnummer</span></a>!) diskriminieren und anders als Signal funktioniert XMPP+OMEMO problemlos über <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> und kann als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a> <em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosted" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosted</span></a></em> werden, für maximale <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Privatsph%C3%A4re" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Privatsphäre</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Datenhoheit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Datenhoheit</span></a>!</li></ul><p>Die strukturellen Probleme von Signal machen es angesichts einer <em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/gleichgeschaltet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gleichgeschaltet</span></a>|en <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USA</span></a></em> ein absolut unnötiges <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Risiko" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Risiko</span></a>, denn ich garantiere <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> wird für keine*n User*in lebenslange <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Beugehaft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Beugehaft</span></a> riskieren!</p><ul><li>Genauso wie's <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220112020000/https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1085614812581715968" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">keine</a> <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LoglessVPN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LoglessVPN</span></a>|s"</em> gibt!</li></ul><p>Und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> ist sehr wohl in der Lage <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Govware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Govware</span></a> - <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Backdoors" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Backdoors</span></a> zu integrieren, denn sonst wären die wegen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ITAR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ITAR</span></a> bereits geknastet worden, weil diese <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Nutzer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Nutzer</span></a>*innen aus <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Kuba" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Kuba</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Nordkorea" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Nordkorea</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Russland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Russland</span></a> haben!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ioc.exchange/@Avitus" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Avitus</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://udongein.xyz/users/lispi314" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>lispi314</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.laurenweinstein.org/@lauren" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>lauren</span></a></span> And if you think <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> is gonna defy a duely submitted warrant and doesn't store or;collect any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumbers</span></a> then you propably;also believe that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LoglessVPN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LoglessVPN</span></a>|s <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220112020000/https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1085614812581715968" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">are real</a>...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>inthehands</span></a></span> how about the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InconvenientTruth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>InconvenientTruth</span></a> that both <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telegram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Telegram</span></a> are <em>BOTH EQUALLY BAD</em> since they both are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/proprietary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>proprietary</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> solutions that collect <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumbers</span></a> with no <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LegitimateInterest" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LegitimateInterest</span></a>"</em> because they are not <em>"technically necessary"</em> to fulfill their services.</p><p>Plus they not only can but will include <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Govware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Govware</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/backdoors" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>backdoors</span></a> when pressed hard enough aka. cops with 3-hole masks put a gun to their heads...</p><p>Just like there are no <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LoglessVPN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LoglessVPN</span></a>'s these Services and their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/staff" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>staff</span></a> have addresses...<br><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210226175949/https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1085614812581715968" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">web.archive.org/web/2021022617</span><span class="invisible">5949/https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1085614812581715968</span></a></p> <p>Instead, consider something where the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/developers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>developers</span></a> nor <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/maintainers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>maintainers</span></a> can't do that - like with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> where you have <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> of all the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Keys" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Keys</span></a> and thus you are in control!</p>