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Luca Sironi<a href="https://app.wafrn.net/fediverse/blog/gabboman" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@gabboman</a> I'm curious about the <a href="https://sironi.tk/tags/bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#bluesky</a> federation thing. Did <a href="https://sironi.tk/tags/bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#bluesky</a> users freak out at having a different system speaking with them, or they didn't even notice the difference, like normal mainstream users are supposed to do ?<a href="https://sironi.tk/tags/bridgyfed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#bridgyfed</a>

Strypey<a href="https://infosec.exchange/@sparklepanic" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@sparklepanic</a> > I found OpenVibe, which allows you to see/post with both Mastodon and BlueSkyAnother way to do something similar is via opt-in to BS bridging via BridgyFed;<a href="https://fed.brid.gy/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://fed.brid.gy/</a><a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/BridgyFed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BridgyFed</a>

Roni Laukkarinen<a href="https://mementomori.social/@Hermanni" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Hermanni</a> Kun seuraat bottia @bsky.brid.gy@bsky.brid.gy, postauksesi alkavat näkymään automaattisesti Blueskyssä. Tämän jälkeen kuitenkin kaikkien niiden, jotka postauksiasi seuraavat tulee seurata ap.brid.gy-tiliä <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/ap.brid.gy" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/ap.brid.gy</a> tai muuten et näe heidän reaktioita Mastodonin puolella.Itse kyllästyin sanomaan ihmisille, että seuratkaa bottia, joten otin koko toiminnon lopulta pois päältä. Seuraajista vain 1% tajusi seurata Mastodon-tiliä ja bottia Blueskyssa, joten ihan turha homma, kun ei ole kaikille oletuksena saatavilla.<a href="https://mementomori.social/tags/BridgyFed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BridgyFed</a> häsärin alta voi seurata lisää sillan kehittymistä. Pitkäänhän on ollut heillä pohdinnassa, että jos vaan sillattaisiin kaikki oletuksena kaikille, niin olisi helpompaa: <a href="https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/1471" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/1471</a>

Roni Laukkarinen<a href="https://mementomori.social/@stedi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@stedi</a> <a href="https://mementomori.social/@jjanhone" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@jjanhone</a> <a href="https://ihan.outo.la/@manna" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@manna</a> <a href="https://mastodontti.fi/@samuelvasy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@samuelvasy</a> Kyseessä on <a href="https://mementomori.social/tags/BridgyFed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BridgyFed</a>, eli yhden ohjelmoijan <a href="https://indieweb.social/@snarfed" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@snarfed</a> rakentama siltabotti @fed.brid.gy@fed.brid.gy, joka käytännössä tekee Fediversumiin siltakäyttäjiä (kuten esim. <a href="https://bsky.brid.gy/r/https://bsky.app/profile/bsky.app" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@bsky.app</a>) ja näin välittää viestit ja reaktiot palveluiden välillä. Bluesky ei siis itsessään ole millään Fediversumi yhteensopiva ja he itse asiassa alunperin tekivät tietoisen valinnan, että tekevät oman protokollan sen sijaan että satsaavat alan standardiin (ks. <a href="https://github.com/bluesky-social/atproto/issues/255" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/bluesky-social/atproto/issues/255</a>). Tämä todennäköisesti siksi, koska haluavat kaupallisen alustan joka on omassa kontrollissa.Bridgyfedin haaste on se, että se on hankala ei-nörttien tajuta laittaa päälle, se vaatii nimittäin suostumuksen, eli pitää osata seurata Bridgyfediä ja käyttäjää omassa palvelussaan. Tuhansista seuraajistani vain muutama siis näkyi Mastodonin puolella. Osan Blueskyssa kommentoijien kommentteja en ikinä nähnyt, koska heidän kommentit eivät siltautuneet Mastodoniin saakka, vaikka tilini näkyikin Blueskyssa - tämä siksi koska eivät tajunneet seurata bottia.Kömpelö toteutus, joten poistin koko botin käytöstä omalta osaltani. Harmitti vaan sen puutteet. Sillä ei tavoita ketään. Bridgyfedin kehittäjä parhaillaan pohtii laittaisiko sillan Blueskyssa kaikille vaan päälle suoraan (ks. <a href="https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/1471" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/1471</a>), koska Bluesky ei kysele muutenkaan suostumusta keneltäkään. Mastodon-yhteisöille suostumuksellisuus on kuitenkin kynnyskysymys, joten tämä(kään) silta ei tule toimimaan, jos se ei ole valtaosalle saatavilla.Lisäksi sillassa on muitakin hankaluuksia: Pitkät viestit pätkiintyy ja boostaukset eivät välity niiden käyttäjien osalta, jotka eivät halua sisältöään sillattavan. Kokemus on siis vajavainen.Eli toisin sanoin: Bluesky ei ole (eikä halua olla) osa Fediversumia. Olen sanonut tämän aiemminkin ja sanon taas: Bluesky larppaa hajautusta. Heillä on oma protokolla, jolla hajautus on mahdollista, mutta 99% käyttäjistä ei tiedä siitä tai ole siitä kiinnostunut. Twitter 2.0 jo syntyessään.<a href="https://mementomori.social/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bluesky</a> <a href="https://mementomori.social/tags/Some" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Some</a> <a href="https://mementomori.social/tags/SodiaalinenMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SodiaalinenMedia</a> <a href="https://mementomori.social/tags/SomeFi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SomeFi</a> <a href="https://mementomori.social/tags/MastodonFi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MastodonFi</a>

three raccoons in a trenchcoatSo my account is bridged to <a href="https://mastoart.social/tags/bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#bluesky</a>, but I can't see replies from non bridged bluesky users unless I go on the bridged profile, much less interact. I'm not trying to be rude folks, I just can't reply 🥲<a href="https://mastoart.social/tags/bridgyfed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#bridgyfed</a>

Osma A 🇫🇮🇺🇦1. Public posts are public. On both Bluesky and fedi. 2. Reply and follow are explicit interactions which require execution over the network. 3. Current implementation means I (you) won't be notified of those interactions from the other network by default. <a href="https://mas.to/tags/bridgyfed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#bridgyfed</a> <a href="https://fediscience.org/@UlrikeHahn" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@UlrikeHahn</a> <a href="https://social.coop/@judell" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@judell</a>

Osma A 🇫🇮🇺🇦I wish the <a href="https://mas.to/tags/bridgyfed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#bridgyfed</a> opt-in policy was revisited already. The current solution flat out does not work. <a href="https://social.coop/@judell" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@judell</a>

BeAware :fediverse:I'm starting to get the feeling that the Fedi Mafia doesn't REALLY care about anything on Fedi, they're just bored as hell all the time and want to stir up some drama to giggle at.I don't see harassing developers as something to giggle at, but with their consistent absolute ignorance of the platform and unwillingness to see how harassment is hurting the platform, I can't help but think they're just really bored assholes.If it's useful to Fedi, they harass and threaten the developer so that others will talk about them. Because any attention is good attention to these assholes.If it's not useful, they just ignore it and the project doesn't go anywhere cause it's not useful.🤦‍♂️ Ignore hate. Build useful Fedi tools.Threats and harassment are ridiculous.<a href="https://social.beaware.live/tags/Fedi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Fedi</a> <a href="https://social.beaware.live/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Fediverse</a> <a href="https://social.beaware.live/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ActivityPub</a> <a href="https://social.beaware.live/tags/BridgyFed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BridgyFed</a> <a href="https://social.beaware.live/tags/Fedicate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Fedicate</a> <a href="https://social.beaware.live/tags/FediOnFire" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FediOnFire</a> <a href="https://social.beaware.live/tags/Harassment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Harassment</a>

Roni LaukkarinenIn the Fediverse, beyond Mastodon and similar platforms, you can also follow users from:- Bluesky (search users with: bsky.brid.gy) - Threads (search users with: threads.net) - X (search users with: bird.makeup) - Nostr (search users with mostr.pub)However, these connections are often one-way, and not all users are discoverable due to various limitations.Many people avoid any contact with these platforms for ideological reasons, and personally, I dislike bird.makeup because it merely provides X feeds. Some Fediverse instances have outright banned all of these services.Over the years, my faith in interoperability with services not originally built for ActivityPub has diminished - Meta has shown no real progress, and the Bluesky bridge, with its persistent issues, is unlikely to ever work seamlessly.I believe in the Fediverse and ActivityPub. They are more than sufficient without external integrations.<a href="https://mementomori.social/tags/SocialWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SocialWeb</a> <a href="https://mementomori.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Fediverse</a> <a href="https://mementomori.social/tags/BridgyFed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BridgyFed</a> <a href="https://mementomori.social/tags/Threads" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Threads</a> <a href="https://mementomori.social/tags/SocialMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SocialMedia</a>

BeAware :fediverse:I feel like I can hear crickets...😩Like usual.👆This is why I wish the damn Bluesky bridge would just work. Some topics here get 0 discussion whatsoever.🤦‍♂️But no, the Fedi mafia gotta make everything difficult so now people who don't even know about Fedi, are expected to follow an account they don't know about, just so I can communicate with them.🤬Open platform my ass.<a href="https://social.beaware.live/tags/Fedi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Fedi</a> <a href="https://social.beaware.live/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Fediverse</a> <a href="https://social.beaware.live/tags/BridgyFed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BridgyFed</a> <a href="https://social.beaware.live/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bluesky</a> <a href="https://social.beaware.live/tags/SocialMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SocialMedia</a>

LezLiz 🏳️‍🌈Is Bridgy Fed worth it for cross-posting from Mastodon to Bsky?Most of my posts getting truncated sounds kind of unusable to me. The profile also getting truncated and probably looking a bit sus to Bsky users isn't great either. And people on Bsky apparently don't really use the service much anyway.It would be cool if it actually worked seamlessly, but I'm not impressed based on my research. Anyone actually had any luck with Bridgy Fed? 😕 <a href="https://mas.to/tags/bridgyfed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#bridgyfed</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#mastodon</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#bluesky</a>

Roni Laukkarinen<a href="https://mendeddrum.org/@patrick" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@patrick</a> - Bluesky's character limit is 300. Mastodon's default is 500. My instance has 10000. So practically all posts get cut off. - Profile character limit is even less, so profile description gets cut off. - Bridgy Fed is currently opt-in and is very difficult for Bluesky folks to understand and enable, so only a few actually use it so I can see their posts in Mastodon. - Some posts that I have I do not want to be seen on Bluesky's side. - When I don't see the replies it makes me look like a dick that doesn't reply to anyone on the other side. Because people can follow my Mastodon account on Bluesky without bridging their Bluesky accounts to Mastodon.This frustrates the heck out of me, so better to just disable it.<a href="https://mementomori.social/tags/BridgyFed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BridgyFed</a> <a href="https://mementomori.social/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bluesky</a>

Roni LaukkarinenSo I have blocked Bridgy Fed account (in other words: disabled my bridge account). I never get any information about replies and about 1% of my follower base use it. It's more of a nuisance than a benefit in its current state.<a href="https://mementomori.social/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bluesky</a> <a href="https://mementomori.social/tags/BridgyFed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BridgyFed</a>

wgravHear me out: (but emphasis on the /hj) <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mastodon</a> bridge with <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/Threads" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Threads</a>. (like <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/bridgyfed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#bridgyfed</a> but worse)And yeah, don't hear me out if I say we should bridge with X. (formerly Twitter)

Roni Laukkarinen<a href="https://suomi.social/@jaoler" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@jaoler</a> <a href="https://mementomori.social/@nen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@nen</a> <a href="https://mastodontti.fi/@mmin" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@mmin</a> Hey <a href="https://fed.brid.gy/r/https://snarfed.org/about" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@snarfed.org</a> how does one remove his BridgyFed bridge account?<a href="https://mementomori.social/tags/BridgyFed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BridgyFed</a>

StarbeamrainbowlabsHmmm, seems like <a href="https://bsky.brid.gy/" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@bsky.brid.gy</a> isn't working for me. I followed <a href="https://bsky.brid.gy/" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@bsky.brid.gy</a> ~early December 2024, but since then my bridged Fedi → BlueSky account still has 0 posts:<<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/sbrl.fediscience.org.ap.brid.gy" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/sbrl.fediscience.org.ap.brid.gy</a>>....I even have a follower over there, so that should mean it works.Anybody know what's going on / what the problem could be?<a href="https://fediscience.org/tags/FediverseIsBetterThanBluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FediverseIsBetterThanBluesky</a> <a href="https://fediscience.org/tags/IWasWritingABlogPostAboutBSvsFediverseButINoticedThisBug" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#IWasWritingABlogPostAboutBSvsFediverseButINoticedThisBug</a> <a href="https://fediscience.org/tags/BlueSky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BlueSky</a> <a href="https://fediscience.org/tags/Troubleshooting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Troubleshooting</a> <a href="https://fediscience.org/tags/BridgyFed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BridgyFed</a>

Rusty Corgibrb rolling up to Snarfed's house and blasting Tom Jones's It's Not Unusual until he makes the <a href="https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/1471" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BlueSky bridge opt-out instead of opt-in for BlueSky users</a> :party_dog: "but what about consent with user data?" my love, it's BlueSky, it's literally designed to firehose your content at anyone who even spares a passing glance at your PDS :neodog_what: <a href="https://cubhub.social/tags/BlueSky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BlueSky</a> <a href="https://cubhub.social/tags/Bridgy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bridgy</a> <a href="https://cubhub.social/tags/BridgyFed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BridgyFed</a> <a href="https://cubhub.social/tags/BSky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BSky</a>

100の人 (エスパー・イーシア)Fediverse リモートサーバーで開く v3.0.1 <a href="https://greasyfork.org/scripts/474630" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://greasyfork.org/scripts/474630</a> ActivityPub対応サービスのUserやNote (トゥート) を、Misskey APIに対応したサーバーで開けるようにするGreasemonkeyスクリプト (ユーザースクリプト) です。 Bluesky公式クライアントのURLを、<a href="https://fed.brid.gy/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bridgy Fed</a>経由で照会できるようにしました！ なお、Misskey最新版のサーバーでは、以下の不具合によりエラーになります。(2025年1月現在) Misskey.ioは対策済みのため問題ありません。 <a href="https://github.com/misskey-dev/misskey/issues/15039" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/misskey-dev/misskey/issues/15039</a> 未ブリッジのアカウントの場合、ブリッジ案内DM送信を、Bridgy Fedへ要求する機能も追加。 <a href="https://misskey.io/tags/Misskey" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Misskey</a> <a href="https://misskey.io/tags/Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Fediverse</a> <a href="https://misskey.io/tags/ActivityPub" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ActivityPub</a> <a href="https://misskey.io/tags/ATProtocol" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ATProtocol</a> <a href="https://misskey.io/tags/Bluesky" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bluesky</a> <a href="https://misskey.io/tags/BridgyFed" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BridgyFed</a> <a href="https://misskey.io/tags/Userscript" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Userscript</a>

Roni LaukkarinenNB! If you follow this account from Bluesky, also follow the bridge account: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:xbifsywyv5pka5jlknhv5yv3" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:xbifsywyv5pka5jlknhv5yv3</a>Otherwise I won't see your replies.<a href="https://mementomori.social/tags/BridgyFed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BridgyFed</a>

Natasha Jay 🇪🇺While I deleted my bridge from the Fedi to Bluesky due to safety concerns, I am finding it useful to follow a few key Bluesky trans rights/law/journalist accounts from here ie. those who bridge from Bluesky > FediI thought I would share for those not aware of the possibility of following people over there, and appreciate suggestions on others btw ▫️Evan Urquhart <a href="https://bsky.brid.gy/r/https://bsky.app/profile/evanurquhart.bsky.social" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@evanurquhart.bsky.social</a> ▫️Sandra Duffy (Dr) <a href="https://bsky.brid.gy/r/https://bsky.app/profile/sandraduffy.bsky.social" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@sandraduffy.bsky.social</a> ▫️Erin Reed <a href="https://bsky.brid.gy/r/https://bsky.app/profile/erininthemorning.com" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@erininthemorning.com</a> ▫️Katelyn Burns <a href="https://bsky.brid.gy/r/https://bsky.app/profile/katelynburns.com" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@katelynburns.com</a> ▫️Julia Serano <a href="https://bsky.brid.gy/r/https://bsky.app/profile/juliaserano.bsky.social" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@juliaserano.bsky.social</a>I am hoping a few others like UK equalities barrister Robin Moira White will bridge to here in future too, if they become aware ... Boosts appreciated :boost_requested: <a href="https://tech.lgbt/tags/Trans" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Trans</a> <a href="https://tech.lgbt/tags/BridgyFed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BridgyFed</a> <a href="https://tech.lgbt/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bluesky</a>

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